My quest for the truth continues, Hermes who i believe is Thoth or the Devil himself
the other names he or it has already gone by so far on my journey are as follows
Cyrus the great
and now in Greek records the names of the beast continue to increase here is some information from Ancient Greece to back up this theory as he was known as
before the gate or guardian of the gate
Hodios patron of travelers and wayfarers
Oneiropompus conductor of dreams
Poimandres shepherd of men
Psychopompos conveyor or conductor of souls
psychogogue conductor or leader of souls in the underworld
and Stropheus protector of the door that is the boundary to the temples
the beast goes by 1000 names.
One of the oldest places of worship for Hermes was Mount Cyllene in Arcadia
where the myth says that he was born, from there the cult would be taken to Athens
and then radiate to the whole of Greece. His temples and statues became extremely numerous, there were temples of Hermes everywhere. In many places temples were consecrated in conjunction with Aphrodite as in Attica Arcadia, Crete, Samos and in Magna Graecia among them soldiers and hunters since war and certain forms of hunting were seen as ceremonial initiatory ordeals and we know Thoth was a warrior king so this fits his profile. This function of Hermes explains why some images in temples and other vessels show him as a teenager, as a patron of the gym and fighting Hermes had statues in gyms and he was also worshiped in the sanctuary of the Twelve Gods in Olympia where Greeks celebrated the Olympic Games. His statue was held on an altar dedicated to him and Apollo a temple within the Aventine was consecrated in 495 BC.
Symbols of Hermes were the palm tree
the number four
several kinds of fish
Sacrifices involved honey cakes pigs goats and lambs
No cult to Hermes existed in Attica of this Athens being the capital and so this form of Hermes seems to have existed in speech only
The god is ambiguous according to prominent folklorist Yeleazar Meletinsky
Hermes is a deified trickster
and master of thieves
a cattle raider
in Homers Hymns there is deception
possibly evil tricks
the god of stealth
Messenger and guide
Hermes was The chief office of the God
said to be a messenger
Hermes Diactoros Angelos
the messenger is in fact only seen in this role for Zeus from within the pages of the Odyssey, Oh mighty messenger of the gods of the upper and lower worlds.
in Greek Mythology
The god of commerce,
cunning and theft,
who also served as messenger scribe and herald for the other gods
Hermes also called Atlantiades remembering Thoth was the king of atlantis considered a god of transitions and boundaries.
He is described as quick and cunning moving freely between the worlds of the mortal and divine,
Worship and cult,
Prior to being known as Hermes existed as a snake god
Angelo in 1997 thinks Hermes to be based on the Thoth archetype
now i am finding other people who are coming to the same conclusion
The absorbing combining of the attributes of Hermes to Thoth developed after the time of Homer amongst Greek and Romans, Herodotus was the first to identify the Greek god with the Egyptian Hermopolis, Plutarch and Diodorus. Although Plato thought the gods to be diss similar but Plato i believe was a student of Thoth
and this also gives me an indication of how Plato knew about the location and attributes of the Atlantians
A cult was established in Greece in remote regions
likely making him a god of nature farmers and shepherds. It is also possible that since the beginning he has been a deity with shamanic attributes linked to divination reconciliation magic sacrifices initiation and contact with other planes of existence,
a role of mediator between the worlds of the visible and invisible.
During the 3rd century BC a communication between Petosiris a priest to King Nechopso probably written in Alexandria 150 BC states:
Hermes is the teacher of all secret wisdoms available to knowing by the experience of religious ecstasy. Due to his constant mobility he was considered the god of commerce and social intercourse, the wealth brought in business especially sudden or unexpected enrichment, travel roads and crossroads like satan himself,
borders and boundary conditions or transient, the changes from the threshold agreements and contracts, friendship, hospitality, sexual intercourse, games, data, the draw and good luck also the sacrifices and the sacrificial animals flocks shepherds the fertility of land and cattle. In addition to serving as messenger to Zeus, Hermes carried the souls of the dead to Hades and directed the dreams sent by Zeus to mortals.
In some myths he is a trickster and outwits other gods for his own satisfaction or for the sake of humankind His attributes and symbols include:
satchel or pouch
and winged cap
His main symbol is the Greek kerykeion or Latin caduceus which appears in a form of two snakes wrapped around a winged staff with carvings of the other gods.
The Hymn to Hermes invokes him as the one of many shifts polytropos
a cattle driver
a bringer of dreams
a watcher by night
a thief at the gates
one who was soon to show forth wonderful deeds among the deathless gods.
Hermes as an inventor of fire is a parallel of the Titan Prometheus. In addition to the lyre
Hermes was believed to have invented many types of racing, the sports of wrestling and boxing and therefore was a patron of athletes.
In the Lang translation of Homers Hymn to Hermes the god after being born is described as a robber, a captain of raiders, a thief of the gates everything Hermes thieves he later sacrifices to the gods, I see these descriptions as selling your soul to the devil,
a trickster, a bringer of dreams, keeper of the gate together with the other descriptions of Hermes this is indeed the beast at work.
Hermes gifts were lies seductive words and he was a dubious character.
Homer and Hesiod portrayed Hermes as the author of skilled or deceptive acts and also as a benefactor of mortals. In the Iliad he is called the bringer of good luck, guide and guardian and excellent in all the tricks and trickeries.
He was a divine ally of the Greeks against the Trojans
However he did protect Priam when he went to the Greek camp to retrieve the body of his son Hector and accompanied them back to Troy
At the Boeotian city of Tanagra
Pausanias relates a local myth that credited the god with saving the city in a time of plague
by carrying a ram on his shoulders as he made the circuit of the citys walls.
There are sanctuaries of Hermes Kriophoros and of Hermes called Promachos.
They account for the former surname by a story that Hermes averted a pestilence from the city by carrying a ram round the walls to commemorate this Calamis made an image of Hermes carrying a ram upon his shoulders whichever of the youths is judged to be the most handsome goes round the walls at the feast of Hermes carrying a lamb on his shoulders. These links are placing another theory in my mind, did Thoth start Christianity to attain a god like status in conquering the four corners of the world he has integrated a similar belief system into every culture.
- Hermes’s well known offspring so far are:
Tutmose the giant in Egypt
Xerxes the Giant king in Persia
and now in Greek mythology we have
The satyr like Greek god of nature shepherds and flocks, Pan could possibly be the son of Hermes through the nymph Dryope, Pans mother is said to have fled in fright from her newborn sons goat like appearance
Depending on the sources consulted the god Priapus could be understood as a son of Hermes.
the Prince of Thieves was a son of Hermes and Chione a mortal and grandfather of Odysseus.
A Modern interpretation of Hermes the psychology for Carl Jung, Hermes role as messenger between realms and as guide to the underworld, made him the god of the unconscious, the mediator between the conscious and unconscious parts of the mind
and the guide for inner journeys.Jung considered the gods Thoth and Hermes to be counterparts in Jungian psychology especially. Hermes is seen as relevant to study of the phenomenon of synchronicity together with Pan and Dionysus. He is identified by some with the archetype of healer as the ancient Greeks ascribed healing magic to him.
Thoth is said to have found the secret to immortality and was given the title uncreated spirit so his feats and knowledge could be seen as divine miracles.
In the context of abnormal psychology Samuels states that Jung considers Hermes the archetype for narcissistic disorder however he lends the disorder a positive beneficious aspect and represents both the good and bad of narcissism. According to Christopher Booker all the roles Hermes held in ancient Greece reveals Hermes to be a guide or observer of transition
Thoth the beast and his influence continue to grow worldwide
in name, deed and deceit
Cyrus the great
The Quest continues
Andrew G Christie.
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